UN to enable France+UK, US & NATO
 - to bring justice to Palestine
    (by bombing Israel)

[update ~12:50PM, update 12Apr'11, update ~12:10PM, update ~15:30PM,
 update 13Apr'11, a final post

[update 13Apr'11:]


AIMs4S = alien invader murderers for spoil (i.e. soil, oil; also AIM4S)

ELO/Os = erstwhile legal owner/occupiers (i.e. improperly dispossessed Palestinians)

PPP = pushed-propaganda paradigm (mostly lies; a 'specialty' of 'reporters' like Anne Barker, say)

Ethnic cleansing "is a purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas. (Commission of Experts Established Pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 780)". [wiki]

Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group. [wiki]

burglar analogy = how to describe the Zionist crimes against Palestine, hence 'improper alienation.'

improper alienation = the reverse of "A fair exchange is no robbery"

revest = return stolen property, i.e. by AIMs4S to ELO/Os, say.

Note: Most of the censored 1st comment has now been published, in modified form split across several subsidiary posts.

Comment: Censoring valid debate inputs (i.e. unl-comments) is un- & anti-democratic and thus is a crime against us, we the voting sheople; censorship-perpetrators should be both immediately sacked and severely punished = into gaol.

[end update]


Original beginning:

The following submitted as comment to AusBC/unleashed, target = It's democracy stupid @ ~4:45pm, 11Apr'11:

«UNGA181 was 'problematic,' 'debatable' and *undemocratic* from the outset (the mostly Palestinian erstwhile legal owner/occupiers (ELO/Os) were neither (properly) consulted nor their (known, anticipated) wishes respected); latest after the evidence of utterly primitive savagery = ethnic cleansing, genocide and land-theft via operations such as the Deir Yassin massacre (11Apr'48), UNGA181 should have been annulled. Yet the I/J/Z-plex project "Eretz-Yisra'el" was 'allowed' to endure until UNGA273 (11May'49), whereby the Israeli regime *promised* to abide by UNGA181 (respect Palestinians' rights) and UNGA194 (acknowledge Palestinians' right of return). That Israel has been continuously in breach of UNGA273 ever since is *not* in any doubt (one look tells all), making the Z-project wholly illegitimate, latest from 11May'49.

Following UNGA1973, first French+UK warplanes then US (predominately Tomahawk robot-missiles), now NATO warplanes a) demolished Libya's air-force and -defences, b) are attacking Libya's armed forces, ostensibly to 'protect' civilians, incidentally(?) aiding 'revolutionary/rebels' in a civil war.

Sauce for the goose; France+UK, US & NATO should now return the favour and come to the aid of the hapless Palestinian ELO/Os, the air-force and -defences and armed forces of the AIMs4S (aggressively invading murderers for spoil) should now be similarly suppressed/eliminated.»

Waiting for AusBC publication (or not?)


Update, ~4hrs later; unnaturally enough, the AusBC/unl p-clock has not yet crawled up to my comment-submit time - so comment still not visible means not (yet?) censored ... trying another anyway, target = @ 09 Apr 2011 5:53:45pm:

«Bipartisan support for anything - here land-theft from hapless ELO/Os (erstwhile legal owner/occupiers) by violence up to and including murder (alien invader murderers for spoil = AIMs4S) - is both un- & anti-democratic.»

Ooops; forgot to add: " .. as it offers the voter *no* effective choice."



Update, 12Apr'11; result = 1st not published = censored, 2nd published ... trying two more, 1st new target = dgr @ 11 Apr 2011 9:30:32pm:

«The outrages of Plan Dalet etc. were premeditated crimes, see Dier Yassin as just one of many, see Herzl & Jabotinsky for premeditation, Balfour & Truman (thanks Eric) for 'great power' perfidy. Shall such crimes and treachery merely be forgotten = forgiven? Under what *moral/legal* = *humanitarian/justice* principles? Then, such crimes (see AIMs4S elsewhere) have been repeated at intervals in the 63+ bloody years since. The proof is in the public domain; ever more of Palestine being gobbled up by an illegitimate entity, see "illegal wall" and "illegal settlements" as manifestations. Should such crimes (indelibly written on history in the name of the I/J/Z-plex) *ever* be ignored = unpunished? Why?

As preconditions to UNGA273, the Israeli regime *promised* to respect UNGA181 (inalienable Palestinians' rights) and UNGA194 (Palestinians' right of return) in particular, and the UN (international legal framework) in general. Observe that Israel was/is continuously in breach of both 181 & 194. For another proof of illegitimacy see the unanimously adopted UNSCR242, the preamble of which refers to the "inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war..." How much more suffering must the hapless, improperly dispossessed ELO/Os bear, how much proof is needed before the perpetrators are brought to justice?»


Update, ~12:10PM, now this is getting interesting; above "brought to justice" comment published, so the following was then submitted,

 .. and 2nd new target = hallway hallway @ 12 Apr 2011 11:00:13am:

«That Lib may equal Lab on Israel (or worse, say neo-liberalism = privatising the public domain, to the sheople's enduring loss) - proves *nothing* about voter intention; in a predominately two-party system, a bipartisan consensus (note: between the two major groups of so-called 'representatives') on *anything* = un- & anti-democratic, since it offers the voters *no* effective choice at all = total loss of sovereignty. To make the latter less obvious, the sheople are immersed in propaganda = lies = deceived, encouraged into a TV/sport/celebrity culture to dumb them down = distracted. Where/when so deceived & distracted, an electorate is incapable of any rational decision, even if they were offered some real choice. All deliberately done, thanks, but "No, thanks!" to our so-called 'leaders,' the (corrupt & venal) MSM and sell-out academia (mainly corrupt economists) - who really should know *and do* better. Where is the Enlightenment, (vis-à-vis Israel, where is truth & justice = absent for hapless Palestinians), *where is my vote*? Apropos people 'voting with their feet,' anyone recall the Fugawi tribe?»



Update, ~15:30PM; phew! Fast & furious, over here; "Fugawi" published *and* the next (target = It's demonisation, stupid @ 12 Apr 2011 4:44:01pm too, followed below by two newly submitted & still queued):

«Bravo 'demonisation,' a very good start in the 'win-win' direction.

There're still at least two items 'to do,' namely *fair&acceptable* compensation for the victims and the 'bringing to justice' of the perpetrators - plus an 'extra' item, somewhat tarnished reputations to possibly be rebuilt.

Some of us like to assume 'the best' in regard for our fellow-wo/men, so it's unlikely that *all* the people involved in the Israel-debacle were actually intentionally bad. Having said that, there are those who thought land-theft was a good idea, those who actually did the thieving (starting with Irgun et al.) and those who gave the orders. Some of these are now dead = beyond redemption, and some will deny responsibility (aka quislings, cowards etc.) and others will continue to deny that vicious crimes were committed at all. To all this I simply say: "Look around Palestine; what happened there pre- and post-UNGA181?"

After Nuremberg, the spectre of the gallows looms. But, since we are compassionate in our pursuit of truth&justice, and recalling the recent "Raymond Davis" affair, there is possibly a kinder, gentler way: the perpetrators *pay their way* out.

Should be easy-peasy; the same diaspora contributors who raised $US50mio+ pre-UNGA181, thus ensuring the Nakba outrage, can now contribute to raising today's equivalent (see fair&acceptable) - for peace.

And the possible rebuilding of reputations may be started with a (genuine!) "Sorry!"»


 .. 2nd last queued for today, target = La la la @ 12 Apr 2011 8:27:53pm:

«"La la la;" your 'pseud' is well chosen.

"... an agreement between the UK and the Arabs" - kindly substantiate *exactly* what you mean by 'UK and the Arabs;' i.e. provide documentation, for example were there referendums to anchor any such decision in any proper democratic majority? A: No. Q: What rights did either party have over the ELO/Os of Palestine and/or their property? A: None.

Proof of above: "A fair exchange is no robbery;" in which case, the hapless Palestinians would have looong ago decamped, with their fair recompense. *Obviously* never happened.

"... Declaration (of independence) occurred on" - kindly substantiate *exactly* how some burglar may declare him/herself 'independent' of the law? (Tip: Murdering theft is a crime.) A: Cannot.

"... it seems they are in constant war with Palestine" - no; the real 'war' is Zs against truth&justice (= *cannot* be won.)

"... choice seems to be between a democracy or a totalitarian regime" - also not, and non sequitur to boot.

The real choice is whether we, as the human race, can ever escape the so-called 'law of the jungle' - usually attributed to primitive animals; troglodytes, say.»


 .. and last queued for today, target = Anon @ 12 Apr 2011 9:33:28pm:

«It's a 'funny' thing (but *not* funny-ha-ha); why would anyone of sound mind go out of their way (like, crossing continents and whole oceans, even) - just to create enemies?

.. and then proceed to kill those created enemies, to steal their property/land? (See AIMs4S vs. ELO/Os.)

Oh. Keywords: "Of sound mind."

Anyone else notice how often Anon discusses killing such *created* enemies? "And while aiming at the enemy targets, civilians died." S/he means innocent civilians and not just a small few, *killed*. Oh no! Send in the UN, France, UK, US (robot cruise missiles), NATO - to protect the entire pre-'48 hapless innocent civilian Palestinian nation? No? *Why the B-hell not*?»



update 13Apr'11, a final post; one more to hammer the point,
 target = @ 13 Apr 2011 8:34:07am:

«chipinga: "Hell will freeze over ..."

Picture: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gates_of_Hell

Zionists, their apologists and sympathisers alike, continually complain: "(Arabs/Muslims/someone/anyone) is out to kill us/Israelis/Israel."

Plan Dalet/Deir Yassin-type massacres (see definitions of 'ethnic cleansing' and 'genocide'); crimes perpetrated by 'people-not-from-there' terrorist groups like Irgun and Lehi etc., quite literally opened the gates of Hell, both for the hapless victims = ELO/Os and the invading Zionist perpetrators = AIMs4S (definitions 'above').

Coming straight after WW2, the AIMs4S set out to commit what in more 'normal' times would be considered 'the crime of the century,' by stealing an entire country by violently driving out most of the native inhabitants.

So couched in vicious crime, Israel ('allowed,' even 'encouraged' by so-called 'great powers') persists in that illegitimate state - but, having opened those gates of Hell themselves, some have the temerity to complain if/when any victims attempt to reverse the Zionist-perpetrators' crimes. WTF?

Well, I say the world has had more than enough of this vile crime; since the UN has recently 'discovered' R2P for UNSCR1973, they should now *enforce* UNGA194 - to respect, protect & restore the former civilian population = ELO/Os to their freedom, place and property -
..by *all necessary measures*.»

PS Last one now published, 13 Apr 2011 6:34:48pm; goal achieved, hooray!

PPS Tried an extra one (silly me) - got censored;
 target = Peter the Lawyer @ 13 Apr 2011 2:55:10pm:

«Hmmm, denigratory ad-homs deployed: "many folk-marxists" ... "little brown people" ... "prepared to kill Jewish children..." - immediately denies any credibility Oh, so cynically claimed by the use of "the Lawyer" in the 'pseud' = likely propaganda (aka lies).

Perhaps IF the self-termed 'great powers' ceased meddling in countries-not-theirs, allowing if not encouraging properly democratic self-determination by any/all people not members of the Anglo/Judiac 'club,' i.e. adopted 'do unto others,' the converse 'do no harm' and adding 'mind their own business,' THEN the world might work that much better and friendlier, thus eliminating any cause or opportunity for anyone to go murdering-to-steal? Let me put that, another way: all aliens (people not from there) should cease crossing borders inwards = aggressively invading, any such alien invaders (here Zionist immigrants into Palestine) to return to whence they came - in clear text, leave the Muslim/Arab/oil lands alone, hopefully also in peace?»

Me: Nothing wrong with that - as always & of course, IMHO.